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peter.murray.rust
peter.murray.rust

Reputation: 38073

writing a portable domain specific language

I'd like to know good strategies for deploying a domain-specific-language which must run under at least 2 languages (Java, C#) and probably more (Python, and possibly Javascript).

Some background. We have developed and deployed a domain-specific language currently written in C#. It's deployed though a series of method calls whose arguments are either common language primitives (string, double, etc.), Collections (IEnumerable, HashSet, ...) or objects in a domain-specific library (CMLMolecule, Point3, RealSquareMatrix). The library is well tested and the objects have to comply to a stable deployed XML schema so change will be evolutionary and managed (at least that's the hope).

We hope the language will become used by a wide and partially computer-literate community, used to hacking their own solutions without central control. Ideally the DSL will create a degree of encapsulation and produce the essential functionality they need. The libraries will manage the detailed algorithms which are many and varied but fairly well known. There's a lot in common with the requirements of the DSL in Domain-specific languages vs. library of functions.

I'd appreciate ideas on the best architecture (clearly once it's deployed we cannot easily backtrack). The choices include at least:

Performance is not important. Clarity of purpose is.

EDIT There was discussion as to whether application calls contitute a DSL. I have discovered Martin Fowler's introduction to DSLs (http://martinfowler.com/dslwip/Intro.html) where he argues that simple method calls (or chained calls) can be called a DSL. So a series like:

point0 = line0.intersectWith(plane);
point1 = line1.intersectWith(plane);
midpoint = point0.midpoint(point1);

could be considered a DSL

Upvotes: 5

Views: 3596

Answers (7)

Todd Stout
Todd Stout

Reputation: 3717

I would like to expand on Darien's answer. I think that ANTLR brings something to the table that few other lexer/parser tools provide (at least to my knowledge). If you would like to create a DSL which ultimately generates Java and C# code, ANTLR really shines.

ANTLR provides four fundamental components:

  • Lexer Grammar (break down input streams into tokens)
  • Parser Grammar (organize tokens into an abstract syntax tree)
  • Tree Grammar (walk the abstract syntax tree and pipe the metadata into a template engine)
  • StringTemplate (a template engine based on functional programming principles)

Your lexer,parser, and tree grammars can remain independent of your final generated language. In fact, the StringTemplate engine supports logical groups of template definitions. It even provides for interface inheritance of template groups. This means you can have third parties use your ANTLR parser to create say python, assembly, c, or ruby, when all you initially provided was java and C# output. The output language of your DSL can easily be extended as requirements change over time.

To get the most out of ANTLR you will want to read the following:

The Definitive ANTLR Reference: Building Domain-Specific Languages

Language Implementation Patterns: Create Your Own Domain-Specific and General Programming Languages

Upvotes: 0

Darien Ford
Darien Ford

Reputation: 1049

If you are willing to re-describe your language using ANTLR you could generate your DSL interpreter in multiple languages without having to manually maintain them including all of the languages you mentioned plus more.

Antlr is a parser/lexer generator and has a large number of target languages. This allows you to describe your language once, without having to maintain multiple copies of it.

See the whole list of target languages here.

Upvotes: 3

Zef Hemel
Zef Hemel

Reputation: 6747

Although I do not want to promote my own project too much, I would like to mention PIL, a Platform Independent Language, an intermediate language I have been working on to enable the support of multiple software platforms (like Java, Python, ...), specifically for external DSLs. The general idea is that you generate code in PIL (a subset of Java), which the PIL compiler can then translate to one of many other languages, currently just Java or Python, but more will be added in the future.

I presented a paper about this on the Software and Language Engineering conference about 2 days ago, you can find a link to the publication of the PIL website (pil-lang.org), if you're interested.

Upvotes: 2

Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen

Reputation: 75426

It is possible to interpret JavaScript from inside a Java-program directly using the script engine, and apparently also from C#. Python can be run on the JVM and the .NET engine.

I would suggest that you investigate these options, and then write your library in a common subset of the execution paths available to the language you choose. I would not consider writing it in a language which requires post translation and conversion, since you introduce a step which can be very, very difficult to debug in case of problems.

Upvotes: 0

Daniel Earwicker
Daniel Earwicker

Reputation: 116724

There seems to be some ambiguity in the question between language and library. The terms "internal DSL" and "external DSL" are useful, and I think are due to Martin Fowler.

An "external" DSL might be a standalone command-line tool. It is passed a string of source, it parses it somehow, and does something with it. There are no real limits on how the syntax and semantics can work. It can also be made available as a library consisting mostly of an eval-like method; a common example would be building a SQL query as a string and calling an execute method in an RDBMS library; not a very pleasant or convenient usage pattern, and horrible if spread around a program on a large scale.

An "internal" DSL is a library that is written in such a way as to take advantage of the quirks of a host (general purpose) language to create the impression that a new language can be embedded inside an existing one. In syntactically-rich languages (C++, C#) this means using operator overloading in ways that seriously stretch (or ignore) the usual meanings of the operator symbols. There are many examples in C++; a few in C# also - the Irony parser toolkit simulates BNF in a fairly restrained way which works well.

Finally, there is a plain old library: classes, methods, properties, with well-chosen names.

An external DSL would allow you to completely ignore cross-language integration problems, as the only library-like portion would be an eval method. But inventing your own tool chain is non-trivial. People always forget the huge importance of debugging, intellisense, syntax highlighting etc.

An internal DSL is probably a pointless endeavour if you want to do it well on C# and Java. The problem is that if you take advantage of the quirks of one host language, you won't necessarily be able to repeat the trick on another language. e.g. Java has no operator overloading.

Which leaves a plain old library. If you want to span C# and Java (at least), then you are somewhat stuck in terms of a choice of implementation language. Do you really want to write the library twice? One possibility is to write the library in Java, and then use IKVM to cross-compile it to .NET assemblies. This would guarantee you an identical interface on both of those platforms.

On the downside, the API would be expressed in lowest-common-denominator features - which is to say, Java features :). No properties, just getX/setX methods. Steer clear of generics because the two systems are quite different in that respect. Also even the standard way of naming methods differs between the two (camelCase versus PascalCase), so one set of users would smell a rat.

Upvotes: 7

Anthony Roy
Anthony Roy

Reputation: 1855

You'd be best off writing the library in C (or some language like rpython which will generate C-code) and then using SWIG or similar to generate the language specific bindings for C#, Java Python etc.

Note that this approach won't help if you are using Javascript in the browser - you'll have to write the javascript library separately. If you are using javascript through Rhino, then you'd be able to just use the Java bindings.

Upvotes: 0

Dale
Dale

Reputation: 13034

Ability to escape to the implementation language in the event you need to do something that just isn't supported by your DSL, or for performance reasons (though I realize that isn't a priority).

I am researching DSL for implementing rules in a rule engine in C#, some of the rules are really complex and may change significantly in the future, so being able to escape out to C# is really useful. Of course this breaks cross-platform compatibility, but it is really just a way of hacking around edge cases without having to change your DSL.

Upvotes: 1

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