Reputation: 7212
As a programmer who is new to Vala, what is your number one piece of advice to someone who is new to the language?
Upvotes: 46
Views: 7990
Reputation: 1406
If you are considering Vala to write a server application then you may like some object pooling features(object token feature) in Aroop. Aroop is a Vala fork that does memory pooling. And it has reference counted garbage collector. You may find a list of features here. Let me name some of the goals here in list,
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Reputation: 341
my advice would be to read the documentation but i personally learned the language by looking at vala code examples:
the vala tutorial helped me alot and the documentation page contains alot of useful examples but the one site that helped me most was and still is valadoc.org:
valadoc will help you alot with the different classes and functions also other librarys.
vala is very c# alike but you will often see java like interfaces too. any experince with C is good because all the librarys around vala is written in C and when calling functions you can almost see all the C code that is right under the surface.
for those people that say vala is too young: vala will continue to bee as young as it is now until somebody makes a VERY big documentation or starts a project as big as QT where thousands of people ask questions everyday.
vala is a little hard to learn in the start because of the bad documentation but don't give up! it's a great language when you have learned it's basics. good luck! and sorry for the bad english :)
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Reputation: 19881
In any event, knowledge of C will be of great use. Our team is actually considering a progressive revamp and porting to Vala. We have members with strong backgrounds in C#/C++ and this change in direction (over time) will be beneficial to the performance and flexibility of our products.
Upvotes: 15
Reputation: 15345
Generally, Vala is excellent, but the one big gotcha I've found is that either its handling of arrays is very primitive compared to the rest of the language or its documentation has a very gaping hole in it.
Despite a long, hard look through the documentation, tutorials, and Google, I've concluded that:
foreach
and +=
to manually add one array to the other element-by-element.argv[1:-1]
but there seems to be no syntax for equivalent to Python's argv[1:]
, so you have to fall back to something more procedural for that.add_all
, none of them take C-style arrays, so I'm back to using add
with foreach
and +=
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Reputation: 872
It largely depends on what background you are coming from. If you're coming from C/C++/Java, the best bit of advice is to learn functional programming. Vala supports true closures, and so you should learn (deeply) how to use lambda expressions. The best resource for this is Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs by Abelson and Sussman. It was the introductory textbook for CS at MIT for many years. It is available free on-line at http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html, but the paper version is more readable. Video lectures are available at http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/. Problem sets are available free at http://icampustutor.csail.mit.edu/6.001-public/.
Aside from that, I'd generally just try to learn the C# programming style well. It is similar to Vala, but there are many books on that topic.
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Also, one of the posters recommended tinycc. This is a reasonable choice for development, but you should use an optimized compiler like gcc (or if supported, Intel's compiler) for deployment.
Upvotes: 38
Reputation: 6874
Caveat: I am not familiar with Vala, but hopefully my answer applies to learning any new language. I just want to offer some thoughts in case they help...I should definitely not get the bounty for my answer.
Bottom line: It depends on why you are learning it...
If you are intrigued because it is a cool new language, but you are not sure how you might use it in practice, try recreating/porting something with which you are deeply familiar to see how it compares.
If you are learning it because you believe it solves a specific problem you are facing, make sure it is worth the up-front investment, since learning any new language can be incredibly time consuming, and there may be a reasonable solution in a more familiar language.
Otherwise, it's all about how you learn best. Are you someone who needs to understand the internals of the language, or just get things done quickly? (Or, like me, somewhere in the middle?) For the getting things done approach, I just look for simple tutorials and try to get something basic up and running to see how it feels. If I am enjoying the language, then I'll start to read more in-depth information about the language and understand what's going on under the hood.
Whatever your approach, best of luck!
Upvotes: 3
Reputation: 1477
My #1 piece of advice is to learn about GObjects. They are the backbone of Vala's power and flexibility, and learning how to wrap various libraries with GObject gives your Vala programs access to everything c can link against (which is a lot!).
Here are a few links that might be of interest:
* http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/
* http://fosswire.com/post/2009/7/gobject-vala/
* http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/#gobject
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GObject
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Tip: You can speed up your build time significantly by using TinyCC instead of gcc for development. Vala uses CC env variable for selecting backend compiler, so "export CC=tcc" will do the trick.
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