robodisco
robodisco

Reputation: 4290

What are the minimum margins most printers can handle?

Im creating pdfs server side with lots of graphics so maximizing real estate is a must but at the same time ensuring users printers can handle the tight margins is a must.

Does anyone have an idea what safe values I can use for the margins when authoring the pdfs. In the past Ive used work and home printers with margins of about one cm with no problems but of course I can't take this as the defacto minimum.

Oh and I don't really want to allow the user to specify the margin (50% lazyness 50% will get complicated.)

Ive googled but couldn't find anything concrete. (average minimum margin printing)

Upvotes: 132

Views: 282295

Answers (6)

K J
K J

Reputation: 11857

Having worked with installing printers and supporting PDF software for decades.

I can say there is, as other mentioned, a very wide range of case specific answers.

The nonprinting area was commonly called the "gripper" or "roller margin", since that is where some paper transports could "smudge" the ink whilst "wet".

Virtual printers, like PDF for screen viewing have no gripper limits. Thus PDF will often be "borderless". Similarly very old line printers and even modern label printers can have "tear off" sprocket areas outside the media so could be printed fully edge to edge.

So what is left are generic inking printers like plotters, inkjets and lasers.

Traditionally it was assumed that the rollers could be "upto" 1/2" thus common in metric to see 12 mm or 13 mm as the starting value, but each application can ask the print driver for its working print area.

Every printer is potentially different. So there cannot be one answer. If a PDF is "borderless" the user can "shrink to fit" or keep scale at 100% and risk smudging!.

A bigger related problem with International distribution of PDF. Is should the media target "Imperial" paper ratios or "Metric" shapes as that affects the marginal white space more. This has often been a problem for some global companies that did not consider that beforehand. This case is not too much of a problem as only a few percent different (94% and 97%).
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Upvotes: 0

Douglas Anderson
Douglas Anderson

Reputation: 4710

Every printer is different but 0.25" (6.35 mm) is a safe bet.

Upvotes: 100

Kurt Pfeifle
Kurt Pfeifle

Reputation: 90295

For every PostScript printer, one part of its driver is an ASCII file called PostScript Printer Description (PPD). PPDs are used in the CUPS printing system on Linux and Mac OS X as well even for non-PostScript printers.

Every PPD MUST, according to the PPD specification written by Adobe, contain definitions of a *ImageableArea (that's a PPD keyword) for each and every media sizes it can handle. That value is given for example as *ImageableArea Folio/8,25x13: "12 12 583 923" for one printer in this office here, and *ImageableArea Folio/8,25x13: "0 0 595 935" for the one sitting in the next room.

These figures mean "Lower left corner is at (12|12), upper right corner is at (583|923)" (where these figures are measured in points; 72pt == 1inch). Can you see that the first printer does print with a margin of 1/6 inch? -- Can you also see that the next one can even print borderless?

What you need to know is this: Even if the printer can do very small margins physically, if the PPD *ImageableArea is set to a wider margin, the print data generated by the driver and sent to the printer will be clipped according to the PPD setting -- not by the printer itself.

These days more and more models appear on the market which can indeed print edge-to-edge. This is especially true for office laser printers. (Don't know about devices for the home use market.) Sometimes you have to enable that borderless mode with a separate switch in the driver settings, sometimes also on the device itself (front panel, or web interface).

Older models, for example HP's, define in their PPDs their margines quite generously, just to be on the supposedly "safe side". Very often HP used 1/3, 1/2 inch or more (like "24 24 588 768" for Letter format). I remember having hacked HP PPDs and tuned them down to "6 6 606 786" (1/12 inch) before the physical boundaries of the device kicked in and enforced a real clipping of the page image.

Now, PCL and other language printers are not that much different in their margin capabilities from PostScript models.

But of course, when it comes to printing of PDF docs, here you can nearly always choose "print to fit" or similarly named options. Even for a file that itself does not use any margins. That "fit" is what the PDF viewer reads from the driver, and the viewer then scales down the page to the *ImageableArea.

Upvotes: 52

Pierre
Pierre

Reputation: 4414

The margins vary depending on the printer. In Windows GDI, you call the following functions to get the built-in margins, the "no-print zone":

GetDeviceCaps(hdc, PHYSICALWIDTH);
GetDeviceCaps(hdc, PHYSICALHEIGHT);
GetDeviceCaps(hdc, PHYSICALOFFSETX);
GetDeviceCaps(hdc, PHYSICALOFFSETY);

Printing right to the edge is called a "bleed" in the printing industry. The only laser printer I ever knew to print right to the edge was the Xerox 9700: 120 ppm, $500K in 1980.

Upvotes: 1

jbalk
jbalk

Reputation: 248

As a general rule of thumb, I use 1 cm margins when producing pdfs. I work in the geospatial industry and produce pdf maps that reference a specific geographic scale. Therefore, I do not have the option to 'fit document to printable area,' because this would make the reference scale inaccurate. You must also realize that when you fit to printable area, you are fitting your already existing margins inside the printer margins, so you end up with double margins. Make your margins the right size and your documents will print perfectly. Many modern printers can print with margins less than 3 mm, so 1 cm as a general rule should be sufficient. However, if it is a high profile job, get the specs of the printer you will be printing with and ensure that your margins are adequate. All you need is the brand and model number and you can find spec sheets through a google search.

Upvotes: 15

Kevin Vermeer
Kevin Vermeer

Reputation: 2852

You shouldn't need to let the users specify the margin on your website - Let them do it on their computer. Print dialogs usually (Adobe and Preview, at least) give you an option to scale and center the output on the printable area of the page:

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Preview
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Of course, this assumes that you have computer literate users, which may or may not be the case.

Upvotes: -4

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