Reputation: 1156
I am using Google Data Flow to implement an ETL data ware house solution.
Looking into google cloud offering, it seems DataProc can also do the same thing.
It also seems DataProc is little bit cheaper than DataFlow.
Does anybody know the pros / cons of DataFlow over DataProc
Why does google offer both?
Upvotes: 83
Views: 82224
Reputation: 11
Is a serverless data processing service that runs jobs written using the Apache Beam libraries.
When you run a job on Cloud Dataflow it gets operated like this:
Dataflow may even change the order of operations in your processing pipeline to optimize your job.
It supports both batch and streaming Jobs. So use cases are ETL (extract, transfer, load) jobs between various data sources/databases.
For example, load big files from Cloud Storage into Big Query.
Streaming works based on subscription to Pub-Sub topic, so you can listen to real-time events (for example from some IoT devices) and then further process the data.
An interesting concrete use case of Dataflow is Data prep.
Data prep is a cloud tool on GCP used for exploring, cleaning, and wrangling (large) datasets. When you define the actions you want to perform on your data (like formatting, joining etc.), the job run under the hood on Dataflow.
Cloud Dataflow also offers the ability to create jobs based on "templates" which can help simplify common tasks where the differences are parameter values.
Is a managed Spark and Hadoop service that lets you take advantage of open-source data tools for batch processing, querying, streaming, and machine learning.
Data proc automation helps you create clusters quickly, manage them easily, and save money by turning clusters off when you don't need them. With less time and money spent on administration, you can focus on your jobs and your data.
Upvotes: 1
Reputation: 2194
Cloud Dataflow is a serverless data processing service that runs jobs written using the Apache Beam libraries. When you run a job on Cloud Dataflow, it spins up a cluster of virtual machines, distributes the tasks in your job to the VMs, and dynamically scales the cluster based on how the job is performing. It may even change the order of operations in your processing pipeline to optimize your job.
So use cases are ETL (extract, transfer, load) job between various data sources / data bases. For example load big files from Cloud Storage into BigQuery.
Streaming works based on subscription to PubSub topic, so you can listen to real time events (for example from some IoT devices) and then further process.
Interesting concrete use case of Dataflow is Dataprep. Dataprep is cloud tool on GCP used for exploring, cleaning, wrangling (large) datasets. When you define actions you want to do with your data (like formatting, joining etc), job is run under the hood on Dataflow.
Cloud Dataflow also offers the ability to create jobs based on "templates," which can help simplify common tasks where the differences are parameter values.
Dataproc is a managed Spark and Hadoop service that lets you take advantage of open source data tools for batch processing, querying, streaming, and machine learning. Dataproc automation helps you create clusters quickly, manage them easily, and save money by turning clusters off when you don't need them. With less time and money spent on administration, you can focus on your jobs and your data.
If you want to migrate from your existing Hadoop/Spark cluster to the cloud, or take advantage of so many well-trained Hadoop/Spark engineers out there in the market, choose Cloud Dataproc; if you trust Google's expertise in large scale data processing and take their latest improvements for free, choose DataFlow.
Here are three main points to consider while trying to choose between Dataproc and Dataflow
Provisioning Dataproc - Manual provisioning of clusters Dataflow - Serverless. Automatic provisioning of clusters Hadoop Dependencies Dataproc should be used if the processing has any dependencies to tools in the Hadoop ecosystem. Portability Dataflow/Beam provides a clear separation between processing logic and the underlying execution engine. This helps with portability across different execution engines that support the Beam runtime, i.e. the same pipeline code can run seamlessly on either Dataflow, Spark or Flink.
Upvotes: 16
Reputation: 4875
One of the other important difference is:
Cloud Dataproc:
Data mining and analysis in datasets of known size
Cloud Dataflow:
Manage datasets of unpredictable size
Upvotes: 4
Reputation: 886
Cloud Dataproc and Cloud Dataflow can both be used for data processing, and there’s overlap in their batch and streaming capabilities. You can decide which product is a better fit for your environment.
Cloud Dataproc is good for environments dependent on specific Apache big data components: - Tools/packages - Pipelines - Skill sets of existing resources
Cloud Dataflow is typically the preferred option for green field environments: - Less operational overhead - Unified approach to development of batch or streaming pipelines - Uses Apache Beam - Supports pipeline portability across Cloud Dataflow, Apache Spark, and Apache Flink as runtimes.
See more details here https://cloud.google.com/dataproc/
Pricing comparision:
If you want to calculate and compare cost of more GCP resources, please refer this url https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/
Upvotes: 6
Reputation: 1382
Here are three main points to consider while trying to choose between Dataproc and Dataflow
Provisioning
Dataproc - Manual provisioning of clusters
Dataflow - Serverless. Automatic provisioning of clusters
Hadoop Dependencies
Dataproc should be used if the processing has any dependencies to tools in the Hadoop ecosystem.
Portability
Dataflow/Beam provides a clear separation between processing logic and the underlying execution engine. This helps with portability across different execution engines that support the Beam runtime, i.e. the same pipeline code can run seamlessly on either Dataflow, Spark or Flink.
This flowchart from the google website explains how to go about choosing one over the other.
https://cloud.google.com/dataflow/images/flow-vs-proc-flowchart.svg
Further details are available in the below link
https://cloud.google.com/dataproc/#fast--scalable-data-processing
Upvotes: 51
Reputation: 1463
Yes, Cloud Dataflow and Cloud Dataproc can both be used to implement ETL data warehousing solutions.
An overview of why each of these products exist can be found in the Google Cloud Platform Big Data Solutions Articles
Quick takeaways:
Upvotes: 79
Reputation: 17913
Same reason as why Dataproc offers both Hadoop and Spark: sometimes one programming model is the best fit for the job, sometimes the other. Likewise, in some cases the best fit for the job is the Apache Beam programming model, offered by Dataflow.
In many cases, a big consideration is that one already has a codebase written against a particular framework, and one just wants to deploy it on the Google Cloud, so even if, say, the Beam programming model is superior to Hadoop, someone with a lot of Hadoop code might still choose Dataproc for the time being, rather than rewriting their code on Beam to run on Dataflow.
The differences between Spark and Beam programming models are quite large, and there are a lot of use cases where each one has a big advantage over the other. See https://cloud.google.com/dataflow/blog/dataflow-beam-and-spark-comparison .
Upvotes: 15