CODEWITHSUNDEEP
linuxx86x86-64
osgx
osgx

Reputation: 94165

Start x86_64 code on x86 (32bit) Linux, running on x86_64 CPU

?Is it possible to start an x86_64 code on i686 Linux (x86, 32-bit)? My CPU is modern Core 2 and it can run x86_64 64-bit code itself, but the OS is 32bit.

The code to start is pure mathematic, and it need almost no interaction with OS.

I want to measure, how fast will be my program in 64bit mode comparing with 32-bit mode. The program is to solve huge combinatoric problem and full size run is dozens of hours.

I can start 64bit code with qemu, but it will be not native execution and speed in qemu will be not related to real cpu speed.

Upvotes: 2

Views: 4583

Answers (3)

osgx
osgx

Reputation: 94165

There is a cycle-accurate simulator for x86/x86_64. By default it will emulate AMD's K8

PTLsim is a state of the art cycle accurate microprocessor simulator and virtual machine for the x86 and x86-64 instruction sets. PTLsim models a full out of order processor core, featuring extensive memory and branch speculation with replay, a highly configurable clustered microarchitecture with various issue queue designs, a full cache hierarchy and memory subsystem and supporting hardware.

Unfortunately it can't run an x86_64 code on 32-bit x86 (cite from FAQ)

Of course, the 32-bit version of PTLsim will lack x86-64 support

But the speed should correlate with real run and a lot of information is available.

Upvotes: 0

MarkR
MarkR

Reputation: 63538

Use vmware; it will work just fine running a 64-bit VM on a 32-bit host OS provided the CPU supports it.

Upvotes: 3

Mat
Mat

Reputation: 206659

You won't be able to run x86_64 programs on a 32bit kernel without some form of emulation. (The other way around works just fine though, with no emulation.)

To be able to run 64bit code on x86_64, you have to enter "long mode" which requires the appropriate page tables to be set up (among other things). A 32bit kernel won't have done any 64bit page tables or mappings. So userspace code can't enter 64bit mode. It might be possible with some kernel help, but a 32bit kernel is simply not prepared for that kind of thing.

And since you can run 32bit code just fine with a 64bit kernel, there is no real reason not to use a 64bit kernel these days, especially if you have some code that could benefit from 64bit mode (more registers in particular).

Why don't you just boot from a 64bit live-cd? Or install a 64bit distribution on a separate disk or partition?

Upvotes: 4

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